Hi Jay,
Thank you for your explanation.
To me it's not important to know how many Deadly or Hard lvl's someone
solved
A person with 10 Easy lvl's on his/her name deserves the same respect
as the one with 10 Hard lvl's
Making a Deadly/Hard winners list puts people on a pedestal
Therefor I think the winners list should stay as it is (ex. kids
lvl's) showing the amount of lvl's someone solved
Maybe it's possible in the future to create a list with extra info as
the kind of lvl's, for the ones who like to know and cannot extract
this info themselves (?)
I think the solvers who "deserve recognition" already get it without a
list
Have fun with LT or Sokoban (not enough patience ?? :-) )
Bye,
Tina
Thank you for your explanation.
To me it's not important to know how many Deadly or Hard lvl's someone
solved
A person with 10 Easy lvl's on his/her name deserves the same respect
as the one with 10 Hard lvl's
Making a Deadly/Hard winners list puts people on a pedestal
Therefor I think the winners list should stay as it is (ex. kids
lvl's) showing the amount of lvl's someone solved
Maybe it's possible in the future to create a list with extra info as
the kind of lvl's, for the ones who like to know and cannot extract
this info themselves (?)
I think the solvers who "deserve recognition" already get it without a
list
Have fun with LT or Sokoban (not enough patience ?? :-) )
Bye,
Tina
--- In [email protected], "Jay" <sokoban_jay@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "chdvl" <w.a.de.vries@h...> wrote:
> > Does he/she want a list of the "elite"?
>
> I believe Suyono's post comes from an email conversation we had. I
> want to try to clarify that conversation.
>
> Suyono gave me a compliment of being a very good solver. However, I
> do not consider myself to be a very good solver, at least not compared
> to a number of others. I do not even consider myself to be a GHS
> Hunter. Last year I was more active with LaserTank. (This year I am
> more active with true Sokoban. But eventually I will get back into
> LaserTank.) I was in the number 1 position of the LaserTank Sokoban
> "top 20" list for a number of months and position 7 in the Challenge
> II list. But I felt guilty for being listed so high. I was there
> because of quantity, not quality. I would look at all of the levels
> that were unrated for each month and try to solve them. I do not have
> the creativity or patience that the true "very good solvers" have.
> Therefore, if I could not solve a level in a single computer session,
> I usually moved on. This means that most of what I solved would
> eventually be rated "Easy" (or "Kids"). I would try to get these
> solved levels submitted quickly so that the true "very good solvers"
> could skip them and concentrate on the levels that would eventually be
> rated medium, hard, or deadly.
>
> But there tended to be fewer of these other levels. So I was trying
> to find a way to give the recognition that these true "very good
> solvers" so justly deserved. My idea was to have a separate list that
> did not include the "Easy" and "Kids" levels. (It was slightly more
> complicated than this, in order to try to prevent cheating. But this
> was the basic idea.)
>
> Although Suyono's list is not the same (and so there might be some
> missing very good solvers), it is an excellent representation. These
> were many of the names I remember seeing on levels where I was
> especially amazed at seeing better solutions. Congratulations to all
> of you: aj, Al + AL, Amad, ccw, I&B, Ihab, Iron, jojo, masa, Mau.
> tere, Tina, VVI
> You are great examples of truly, very good solvers!